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Lil B Has a New Fan, So Sue MePosted by Brando on 01/20/11 | Filed under Top Stories, Features, Lil B, Speak of Freedom |
| SmokinAces |
This is horrible. No more Biggie, Jay-Z or Nas huh. Now it's Waka, Gucci and Lil B? So sad. It's not the fact that dude can't rap worth shit. It's not the fact that dudes beats are straight doo doo butter. It's not even the fact that dude has songs like Ellen Degeneres or I'm Paris Hilton. It's fact that bloggers and the media are making it seem like there's some "genius" behind all this. Marketing on social networks (I didn't know this was still some abnormal thing we should give people credit for) does not mean dude's a genius. And sorry, I watched a video of one of his shows and was far from impressed. Sometimes people get so caught up in the hype of something they forget that some music is just bad (didn't someone on this site write an entry about that?) No explanations for Lil B's current success can make up for the fact that dude's music leave A LOT to be desired, especially if you like good music and are not caught up by all the hype surronding this kid. |
| Posted on Jan 20, 2011 |
| bitcloud7 |
This offends me. Wonton soup is the epitome of mixxie. lol |
| Posted on Jan 20, 2011 |
| Danielle Harling |
"To watch Lil B work a crowd can be compared to watching Mozart conduct." Seriously...? |
| Posted on Jan 20, 2011 |
| Brando |
@Danielle I've gone to shows where I've seen more FlipCams than actual crowd participation. Somehow he's mastered stage presence. Jay-Z doesn't have to do much, KRS may still be top five DOA when it comes to live shows, same for Nas. But I can't hate if an artist compels a fan to put away a camera and just ENJOY a concert. |
| Posted on Jan 20, 2011 |
| kylewilliam |
B used to be, and quite possibly still is, part of one of the most revolutionary groups California has ever seen. While he's obviously no lyrical genius, his work with The Pack molded the foundation that has launched groups like the New Boyz. That's pretty influential. I started to avoid his work awhile back when he began creating his 19832345876591 MySpace Music pages because all of it sounded like, well...Wonton Soup. It's a huge disappointment to hear tracks like this and even more of a concern that crowds are in a trance over it. |
| Posted on Jan 20, 2011 |
| Originality |
This is not a point society needs defended at the moment. The obsession with this solja boy-esque music has created a huge predicament. People have energy , and yes, they can perform shows that energize the audience. But last time I checked, Refined Hype was always attempting to put listeners in the right direction. No one in this world should be allowed to talk about Wonton Soup on a song and be praised for it. It's why we make fun of the mixxie kid. Because his music is a stereotypical attempt to make it in the music industry with pathetic lyrics and empty messages (If there is a message at all). People should praise lyricists and great producers. If the crowd listening to Solja and Waka were listening to some other artists who had great lyrical ability and fantastic production then other artists would refrain from releasing music of such a low quality. One of my favorite articles posted on Refined Hype was Jason Jame's "This is my Rifle: The Devil wears Skinny Jeans" because it pinpointed the problem with modern music. In many years this point will be well respected but at the moment this is not a point that can be swallowed without thinking "this does not justify why you should like this music." To sum it up, this is one point of view. Now imagine hundreds of thousands of people with these mindsets buying this music for all the reasons mentioned in the article. Now imagine this music outselling Lupe Fiasco or another one of your favorite rappers making good music. Every beat being associated with a dance like the "Dougie" or "Jerk" rather than having an intriguing rhythm or a clever sample. Do we want to live in that world. Personally I don't. I don't care if you think the music is awful, but like the guy. Until we have less New Boyz and more Lupe's, I can't agree with this point at all. P.S. Although I clearly disagree, thank you for writing this article. P.S.S. "belongs right up there with Odd Future in terms of shock rap" ... What does Refined Hype have against OF? If we can talk about the genius of Lil B we can sure as hell talk about these kids. |
| Posted on Jan 21, 2011 |
| Brando |
@ Originality Thanks for reading. Also, +1 for the Fallout avi. Trust me, there's a crowd for everything and while my utopian world would have Lupe Fiasco being a multi-platinum success that didn't need to fight with record labels just to get a LEAK out of him. But such is the world. One where Rick Ross' raps win people over despite his actual lack of credibility. |
| Posted on Jan 21, 2011 |
| foxbehindthewheel |
Since when was Mozart renown for his work as a conductor?(He wasn't, he was highly praised for his work as a composer, which Im sure you realize serves a different function than a conductor). And classical music doesn't tend to involve crowd involvement like more modern music does, so I am forced to point out that your analogy was a complete fail. And I have to wonder if you called yourself a purist to preemptively defend yourself against the oncoming flood of "wtf" replies or not, because I fail to see how liking opposing ends of a spectra makes one a purist. It probably means more that you have your own set of taste not satisfied by any one artists work, just like the rest of us, not that your on some sort of pedestal because you like some music that others would look at and be like "wtf". And the guys not really a marketing genius, I cant believe nowadays its considered genius to hop on trends (like branding yourself as personality via the colbert method, or embracing social media just like every other artist is doing)instead of doing something creatively new (and I dont see how because some of his music has shock value, that makes it good) To me, it honestly looks like your praising him for taking the logical steps in competing in an industry overly saturated with "swag" rappers (your Soulja boys, your Guccis, your Wakka Flakas) which makes little sense to me at all. You know I really can't agree with this article (especially that failed analogy lol) but meh, everyone has their own opinion. And since yours wasn't (and never is) some bs "this sh*t is hot because it is" jumpoff, I can respect that. |
| Posted on Jan 21, 2011 |
| Set_Gecko |
i cant explain to yall how much i like his look like jesus song. i could cook to it all day |
| Posted on Jan 21, 2011 |
| Brando |
@FBTW - Well played sir. While writing this at 2 AM I forgot the whole Mozart conductor/composer analogy I had in there. Which is why I backdoored it later with the P.T. Barnum reference. I call myself a purist not on the fact that I like both sides but because I'm quicker to defend your lyrical rappers of substance than Lil B. I still can say Rakim needs a check from 9 million rappers who jack his flow. However, I've written two articles defending the "ills" of hip-hop mainly because hating on them is boring as hell. |
| Posted on Jan 21, 2011 |
| Nathan S. |
I would say that Lil B is the Lady Gaga of hip-hop. It's not really about the music, it's about an image, a lifestyle, and the music is just one small part of that. B's created an image, style and entire ethos that's entirely his own, and as Lady Gaga's shown, that can mean major success. In other words, I'll never listen to his music, but I do respect the movement he's creating. Unlike Waka, who's unbelievably even stupider than he may appear, I think Lil B is a lot smarter than you may think. |
| Posted on Jan 21, 2011 |
| johnboy1 |
#CONTROVERSIAL in the nation |
| Posted on Jan 22, 2011 |
| EasyToEnvy |
@Nathan S.-i dont think lady gaga is the best comparison here, simply because she actually is very talented. I wud compare him more to a ke$ha or something like that. |
| Posted on Jan 26, 2011 |
| foxbehindthewheel |
....i just heard his song motivation for the first time... its a far cry from wonton soup, I actually like the sh*t... but the more i think about it, the more it seems like his movement is all about the image (cosign on nathan). In that sense I can respect his hustle, but i dont think I can respect him as a rapper. I mean, i understand the need for a proper image, but I cant really rally behind someone that;s vain like so (all image and no substance). I'll concede that he's smarter than waka (not like thats difficult), and smarter than I want to give him credit for, but i doubt i'll ever come close to being a fan of his |
| Posted on Jan 30, 2011 |